tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post3740866937475483250..comments2024-03-25T09:57:45.669+00:00Comments on A SLICE OF CAKE: RIESLING WINE CAKE, and the strange case of “whose recipe is it anyway?”Jeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09726164724131916224noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-311706589219724472013-11-08T08:13:35.059+00:002013-11-08T08:13:35.059+00:00Phil, I think it was the fact that all the recipes...Phil, I think it was the fact that all the recipes were turning up on line that prompted the Lepardgate incident.<br />Some, like me, argued that it would promote book sales and in fact I bought it myself because it had been so often praised in blogs, but it was by then a sensible price in the supermarkets.<br />I think you're right though, nobody can make a living from cookbooks alone these days. You need the TV series to go with it, plus the speciality foods and so on. Mary Berry's pension must have benefited enormously from her re-inventing herself in the last few years, but then she does know what she's talking about and people trust her.<br />I'm not sure how much I would enjoy seeing DL doing the paso doble.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726164724131916224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-78731055971567364692013-11-07T23:17:58.083+00:002013-11-07T23:17:58.083+00:00Whoever created the recipe, it's a really love...Whoever created the recipe, it's a really lovely looking cake. Over the years I've come across quite a few examples of recipes turning up in more than one book. There was a time in the 1990s when a certain celebrity chef managed to "accidentally" publish several recipes which were exactly the same as a celebrity chef from another country together with several recipes which were simply reprints of Eliza Acton recipes - all without any credits. <br />On the other hand, I know how hard it is to develop and test new recipes and I don't blame writers for repeating well known recipes. After all, you've got to find the time you need to enter dance competitions from somewhere. A lot of writers have 'home economists' who do a lot of the development and testing, it's just that some are better than others at acknowledging the fact (Nigella's Hettie, for instance). As for Dan L, I didn't buy his book when it came out because it was just too expensive, especially since a lot of the recipes were already available on line. I do have a copy now and it's a pretty decent collection from someone who knows what he's talking about. But I only bought it because it was about a third of the original price in a shop selling remaindered and bankrupt stock. I don't think it's easy trying to earn your living solely from cookery books any longer. The world has changed. <br />Perhaps we'll see Dan doing the paso doble before too long.Phil in the Kitchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15904292856978631382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-18981727129100240162013-11-06T11:31:36.125+00:002013-11-06T11:31:36.125+00:00It is difficult to know where a recipe originally ...It is difficult to know where a recipe originally came from. You see the same recipe on many chef's and cook's sites just given a little tweak from another version. I wouldn't worry about it; The Hairy Bikers don't!Snowyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04944724956205419885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-30154029190052096682013-11-05T22:24:50.783+00:002013-11-05T22:24:50.783+00:00As far as I know, you can't copyright recipes ...As far as I know, you can't copyright recipes as such. Certainly using someone else's photos and/or their exact words is breach of copyright. But rewriting in your own words and/or adapting it is not -- although out of politeness I would always state where I'd adapted it from.<br /><br />I think some big names (Jamie Oliver is another one) haven't grasped that food bloggers are popularising them by blogging about their recipes, not "stealing" from them, and pursuing them is counter-productive.Veronicahttp://www.larecettedujour.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-82579550301030961692013-11-05T19:59:43.293+00:002013-11-05T19:59:43.293+00:00Ha ha! I was also a victim of over-zealous Lepard ...Ha ha! I was also a victim of over-zealous Lepard protectionism - I copied out a recipe for marmalade cheslea buns, giving full credit, but was asked to take it down and replace it with a link back to the Guardian web page where I'd found it. It made me think twice about opening Short & Sweet again too and I didn't touch it for about a year, but it is a very good book, and I have snuck back to it. It does make you think though, that if the celebrity chefs are nicking recipes, where does that leave the rest of us...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11838426651793558151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-54363085659344563092013-11-05T10:41:57.764+00:002013-11-05T10:41:57.764+00:00The Lepardgate incident did spook me at the time a...The Lepardgate incident did spook me at the time and I think I would have handled it differently now, ie not panicked. Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726164724131916224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-46511793189867160092013-11-05T10:37:33.912+00:002013-11-05T10:37:33.912+00:00Susan, it says "food photography by Cristian ...Susan, it says "food photography by Cristian Barnett" in the credits and acknowledgments but there is no mention of where recipes come from, except to for thanks to someone called Justine Pattison and several assistants for "help and advice on the recipes".Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726164724131916224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-35771266850667358952013-11-05T10:35:12.962+00:002013-11-05T10:35:12.962+00:00I think the BBC has a lot of recipes they seem to ...I think the BBC has a lot of recipes they seem to label to whichever chef is on TV at the time... lovely lot of cakes... don't lose sleep over anything though xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431297921869969693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896642794207631523.post-92127081356609151342013-11-05T10:17:45.554+00:002013-11-05T10:17:45.554+00:00I notice that the website in question is an Austra...I notice that the website in question is an Australian magazine. So perhaps one side was hoping the other wouldn't see it. Does Simon Rimmer get any sort of acknowledgement in the book (at the back for instance). Who is listed as the photographer for that page -- that would be a way of tracking down who was first. And dates of publication. Yes I think matters. At best it's disingenuous, at worst it is profiting from someone else's work.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06472449597146519943noreply@blogger.com